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Recently we reviewed Lenovo’s ThinkPad T410, the latest in their bread & butter lineup with a new chassis and some nice design tweaks. One of the things Lenovo has stressed in the past is their desire to improve serviceability on their laptops. This took a decided nose dive around the T60 models, with the memory placed under the touchpad and a dozen screws holding the touchpad and keyboard in. And when you went to put the palm rest back on? You needed to be a Xen master to contort the palm rest such that every latch clicked into place, and even then you probably still had a creaky panel now.
Lenovo has made some nice improvements in these areas, even over the T400 which had evolved from the hellish T60 and T61′s. Let’s dive in
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Bottom Access Panel
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We first turn to the underside of the T410, where we thankfully find an access panel not seen on the T Series since the T4x days (T400s excluded). While this panel houses only one of the two memory DIMM slots, it does provide single-screw access to a RAM module and the Mini-PCI Express slot for the WWAN module. Our T410 came with the new Gobi 2000 GPS/WWAN card, which you see populated here. If you order a module sans WWAN card, you will still get the antennae pre-installed and awaiting your card of choice.
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Under Keyboard
At this point, I figured it was time to find the other memory slot, indicated to be under the keyboard. Expecting to have to finagle with a dozen tiny screws, I scoured the underside for the familiar keyboard icon next to the appropriate screw holes. A bit dumbfounded, I only found one keyboard screw, and it was under the access panel I’d already removed. The screw holding on the access panel also sinks into the keyboard, making for a grand total of only two screws holding the keyboard in place.
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The new T410 keyboard mounting relies on the structural stiffness of the chassis, as well as a bit of a lever action at the top of the keyboard. The keyboard itself has a lip that slides under the top part of the bezel, which when counter-secured by the screws provides a significant amount of stiffness. Having learned their lessons with keyboard flex on the T400, it seems like they’ve got a solid solution here. But more on the keyboard later – we have a whole post dedicated to keyboards coming up soon.
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With the keyboard freed from its one remaining screw, we see some familiar sights. Heatsink, WiFi card….where’s the other DIMM? Peek-a-boo, there it is! It was hiding under a nifty dust shield.
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This would be the slot to populate with a large capacity module, particularly a 4GB module since the T410 now supports 8GB max. Enjoying the view of the exposed roll cage, we also notice the new Intel 6200 WiFi card. Whew, these things just keep getting smaller and smaller. Should you feel the need to drop in a new card, the WiFi Mini-PCI Express slot is in plain view as well.
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Ultrabay
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This is one of the few negative traits passed on from the T400s, as yanking the Ultrabay now requires two hands and access to the underside of the notebook. Prior models had a spring loaded latch that could be released with a single switch that was accessible with the notebook in a normal, upright position.
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This new design requires that you flip the notebook over, hold the small lock switch back and then push the mechanical slider to pop the drive out. Unfortunately even the new docking stations don’t offer a second Ultrabay, so you have no choice but to flip your notebook over for Ultrabay swaps. This and the loss of LED indicators are my biggest pet peeves with the new designs, hands down.
It is also worth noting that the latest info suggests there will be no supported Ultrabay batteries on the new T410/T510/W510 ThinkPads, although the T410s can still use one.
Hard Drive
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One thing Lenovo has done right for the past several generations is the hard drive and the T410 doesn’t mess with that perfection. A single screw gets you access to the standard 2.5-inch drive, with its handy-dandy pull tab and shock absorbing rubber rails mounted on a metal roll cage. This is the sweet spot for that SSD you’ve been itching to purchase. Go ahead, do it, you know you want to.
SIM card
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As a closing note, the very infrequently accessed SIM card is located under the battery. Once you’ve installed your WWAN card of choice, just pop in your SIM card and get surfing. Who needs WiFi?
Conclusion
I’m rather impressed with the two screw access to the entirety of the T410′s RAM and wireless cards, with only one more screw keeping the hard drive out of your mitts. Under the keyboard memory slots are no fun for anyone, but packaging demands are what they are and having one DIMM accessible via the underside is a plus. Lenovo thoughtfully offers most of their ThinkPads with an option to add your own WWAN card and they make it ridiculously easy to do so on the T410.
Unfortunately the only real big step backwards on the T410 is with the very device that is supposed to be easy to swap: the Ultrabay. People who rely on being able to easily swap drives without up-ending the PC on their desk are out of luck with the redesigned T410, T510 and W510 (the W701 and X201 are spared as they are not a chassis refresh). A docking station for the T410 that has a second Ultrabay would alleviate these issues for power users, but alas there is no such option at this time. At least you can still steam on with a second 2.5-inch drive (high capacity HDD with a primary SSD perhaps?) or optical drive.

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Can’t find parts here in Europe! Ultrabay and battery are impossible to order for at least 30 days.
For the T410? I’m not surprised, it takes a little time for all parts to be widely available.
Some of the older Ultrabay designs were too easy to pop loose. I’ve seen some that got mangled because they opened up inside a bag and then were bent when someone yanks the laptop out too fast. Also, only a small percentage of users actually ever swap anything in an Ultrabay.
John Hobbes,
I am very concerned about the fact that i cannot use two harddrives in your quote “You just can’t roll with two 2.5-inch drives packed into your 5 lb 14-inch notebook. THAT sure was a claim to fame of ThinkPads for quite some time.”
Did you mean that i cannot buy an ultra bay drive and slip a 2.5 inch hardrive/ssd into the ultra bay? Ordid u just mean that it is not practical as u cant use the optical dirve if i do use two 2.5 inch drives?
Please answer quickly as i am just aboout to place my order and this is a deal breaker in which case i will go got 16:9 t510
Regards
Rohan
Sorry, I should clarify that statement. You can use other Ultrabay devices, including the SATA HDD caddy. I was more referring to that for those who might rely on easily swapping devices at their desk, it is now much more of a pain. Apologies, I will correct now.
Thank You for Clarification.
Also want to voice my concern in seeing lenovo making a move the 16:9 panels. I wanted a t510 originally but just because of the screen ratio i am going for a t410. I am afraid next version of the 14 inch laptops as well to be 16:9 it is absolutely frustrating to scroll pages down to read documents while the extra horizontal realestate is wasted. i have no idea why anyone who wants to pay 2k for a pro laptop will want a 16:9 screen. Or am i wrong and that is what every one wants?
Rohan, I’m with you on that one, and I thought that was just me, too. Everything seems to have the widescreens now, even the business laptops like this one, which I just bought. Since almost everything I do is online now, I really wish I had a taller screen to reduce browser scrolling rather than a wider one, but there isn’t that choice out there so much these days. They seem to think that everyone wants to watch movies on their laptops, though surely most use is with a browser. Not much innovation in maximizing laptop form factor for the web, unfortunately.
This is deal breaker for me. I have a T400 and was seriously considering upgrading to the T410 for the i7 processor, VOIP controls, and new keyboard. However, I am an avid Ultra-Bay user, and the idea of turning my TP over, even in the dock, to release the Ultra-Bay is just UNACCEPTABLE!!! David Hill, are you listening???
Why does Lenovo continue to take great ideas and innovations and scrap them?? I thought they had had a better user experience research than this. In my opinion, they are starting to become more and more like Apple, the whole “were going to do what we want vs. what our customers want mindset..”
Very disappointing.
I don’t see any weather sealing around the bottom closure for the DIMM and the WWAN card. This was always a problem on the T4x ThinkPads, and one of the reasons they moved it under the palm rest for the T6x and T400 series. But, I have to agree – why would they change the UltraBay eject? Doesn’t make sense to have to flip your machine over to eject your Optical or other device in the UltraBay.
LVDS CABLE Made by Wanshih, haha
on the forth picture, is the screen actually bent like that or is it just something wrong with the picture?
Bit of optical illusion due to the angle, I suspect. Check out the pics in the T410 review
Well the things that I dont like:
- 16:9 screen ratio is obvious
- new keyboard layout – what for ? this is plain stupid, I got used to old one so why should I change ? Big keys look ugly a lot ! Im curious if mr. Hill likes those ugly keys
- In my opinion removing 6 status icons from the lid is also awful … I thought ThinkPads were for professionals not for people who dont like those icons or dont know what do they really mean ! Im really happy that I have my X61s,X200T and T500 with proper icons. Beucase of them and my own knowledge I know whats goin on with my ThinkPad, I can know what has failed for example ac adapter or I have no power at all, see ? num lock and caps lock icons were also useful … do I have to continue ? Please Lenovo stop doing things like this. I really liked ThinkPad brand for being for professionals, IT people etc but now I see my favourite notebook brand going down …
- I thought that old gen ultrabay was okay but could be better, for example better compatibility with other models from the same generation but thing what they offer now is rubbish, its just design flaw
SORRY CHAD but how do you know how many people use ultrabay ?????? I hope you dont mind if I ask you, why did you buy thinkpad and what do you do on it ?
This is crazy becuase Lenovo doesnt listen to loyal customers but looks for some new fresh users and make changes for them …
Keep on doing like this and I will have to look in for different brand … for sure this will be hard because OLD GOOD THINKPAD was unbeatable …
Cheers
Hey
I am wondering if one of the memory sticks is soldered onto the motherboard? Here is a article that mentions one of the RAMs being soldered onto the motherboard. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/notebooks/Lenovo-Thinkpad_T410.htm
it might be a mistake
Thanks!
They are most incorrect.
thanks for the quick reply. a few more quick questions. is there any flex in the screen when you open and close it? also is there some flex when the screen is close and you press on the center of the screen. is your keyboard review out yet? if so can you please post the address as i cant seem to find it. thanks
I was wondering whether it’s possible to upgrade the discrete graphics card in the T410. I like pretty much everything about it except I need 512mb or more on graphics… can I get that on the T410 or do you have to go to a 510?
There are so many misconceptions here and some of them are really unfunny
1. Keyboard is a great improvement after the BIOS update, I can aggressively type at my 150WPM pace that I do with my Model M with the T410 keyboard.
2. The T410 is easier to take apart than my T43
3. The Ultrabay CAN be removed with one hand, use your right hand to tilt the T410 on a stable surface, use your index fingernail to push the release and use your middle finger to slide it out. Otherwise, just push the release and use your free hand to prod it. This system is a nice and positive lock over the T43′s spring loaded latch, which has had the drive pop out a few times before. I would have preferred the small button be larger and with less spring tension while the sliding piece gained a bit of texture for grip.
4. The 16:10 ratio is a compromise over the T43′s 4:3 Flexview screen, but it is much better than the (Horrible for general uses) 16:9 format. Watching 16:9 content leaves two black bars, which is nice for subtitles. A little less optimism for 4:3 content on full screen…
5. I like the new keyboard indicator LEDs, except the capslock indicator because I use two pieces of microfiber to pad the keyboard (Less wear). The onscreen display helps with that.
Oh and the Thinklight is brighter, too.
I do miss the blinking wireless indicator for data transfer, that was nice on the T43 to know of network activity…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRv4N35QLbo
Here, I made a video with the Ultrabay release with one hand… No flipping over either…
Navck,
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. In an undocked situation, it certainly does appear to be easier than I had originally thought. However, I am still wondering what the effect would be trying to change out the UltraBay WHILE the T410 is docked. It seems to me that a person would have to undock their Thinkpad, swap the ultrabay, THEN redock it.
After being spoiled with the ability to do swap ultrabay’s one handed while docked or undocked and having this feature being present on Thinkpad model all the way back to the T23, I have a hard time accepting why Lenovo decided to change this on the T410.
I use the 2nd hard drive caddy in the Ultra bay for my T400 but for some reason that same caddy will not work in my T410? It fits just fine but doesn’t do anything when connected. I cant seem to find a part number on Lenovo website to order a new one if it in fact is different. Had anyone else experienced this issue?
thanks,
Mark
If I’m putting in a faster mem module, does it matter which slot the faster (and bigger) one is in and which one the slow one is in?
Also disappointing that the T410 does not have incorporated Bluetooth. Exchanging data with my phone is back to connecting wires again. How much could that have possibly have saved to leave off Bluetooth? What do I need Bluetooth for? Phone, external mouse, external printer….
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