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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:50 am 
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I bought a Western Digital 80gb WD800BEVE drive for my G40. I noticed that the drive gets very hot to the point the system shuts down.

I returned the drive and are now waiting for it's replacement to arrive and I am wondering if this problem is unique to this drive or do all wd drives run hot?

Has anyone else had this with WD drives?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:17 pm 
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I don't know about that particular drive, but I bought a Western Digital PATA 120 GB 5,400 rpm drive for my T42 that didn't last a year. The original 60 GB Hitachi 7,200 rpm drive that I have in that T42 as a second hard drive still works and is about 6 years old. I received a replacement WD drive under warranty, but before it arrived I bought a Samsung 160 GB 5,400 rpm drive which has been working over a year now. However now that I've got my new X220 that T42 is not seeing very much use these days.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 am 
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Had an 80 gig WD pata/ide several years ago in a Dell, can't recall it ever running hot... this drive is only a single platter 5400rpm drive... you usually don't have heat issues with those specs. 2 platter 7200 rpm drives tend to be much hotter.

The WD is rated at 60C max(140F), but 5400rpm drives typically run near 40C under normal load. When you get the new one, grab a copy of Open Hardware Monitor and check the temps.

It reports my "Fujitsu MHT2030AT 30GB DMA/ATA-100 (Ultra) 4200RPM 2MB cache 2.5" 9.5mm" at 37C in a Dell D600, just been browsing here and other websites... but this laptop has reported issues with heat under the palmrest... so i expect it to be hotter then normal :P

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:37 pm 
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I finally got the new replacement drive today (7-28-11)

took about45 minutes to install the drive and restore the system using Clonzilla and then re-sized the drive with G-Parted.

Downloaded Open hardware monitor. The drive currently is running 47C with a high of 48C. However, that is with minimal drive operation.

Wish me luck. If this gets too hot I'll get a cheap drive enclosure and get a Hitachi drive. I really would rather not have to spend too much on a computer I bought for $35.00 off ebay.

Next job is to rebuild the battery.....(new post for that)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:08 am 
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Might not be the WD's fault, here is an old Thinkpad-Mailing List thread where the guy updated the BIOS and his not new Hitachi DK23EA-40B started heating up...

http://zurich.ai.mit.edu/hypermail/thinkpad/2005-08/0108.html

Michael Hoffman wrote:
> I have a G40 (2384-33U) with a Hitachi DK23EA-40B hard drive. In the
> last couple of days, my SMART monitoring software, HDDLife, has warned
> me that the hard drive is overheating (over 45 degrees C). The hard
> drive sensor starts at about 31 degrees C on the first reading, and
> gradually increases to about 55 degrees C when the system fan turns on,
> which cools it down just a little.
>
> Hitachi specifies 55 degrees C as the maximum working temperature, and I
> haven't seen it go above 56 degrees C. The ACPI temperature reported by
> SpeedFan is about 55 degrees C. Hmonitor reports a CPU temperature of 42
> degrees C.

I have investigated this problem further by putting the hard drive in an
external enclosure, and then booting from an Ubuntu Linux Live CD. There
I was able to monitor the motherboard temperature, while reading the
entire hard drive to stress test it. The hard drive stayed cool as a
cucumber. The motherboard temperature kept fluctuating, though. You can
see a graph of it here:

http://cus.cam.ac.uk/~mh391/2005/thinkpad/acpi.pdf

The temperature goes up until the fan turns on, when it goes back down
to a decent level. Then the fan turns off and the process repeats. I
suspect that the BIOS update may have increased the threshold for
turning the fan on, either to increase efficiency or decrease volume. I
wish I could just leave the fan on all the time, but there doesn't seem
to be a way to do that. But since the fan seems to be working fine when
it is actually turned on, and it passes the PC Doctor diagnostics tests.

Since a new fan assembly is so expensive here in the UK (more than the
equivalent of USD 100), and I think the chance of damage to the solid
state components is slight at these temperatures, I think I will just
start backing up my data daily rather than buying new parts. I hope it
is just a BIOS issue and that eventually a new BIOS will fix this.

If you think I'm being a total idiot and I really must replace the fan
or get external cooling or something, please don't be shy about letting
me know.


The link to the acpi pdf file is dead, but here is the archive org link: http://web.archive.org/http://cus.cam.ac.uk/~mh391/2005/thinkpad/acpi.pdf

That Hitachi is only a 4200RPM drive... it really should run cool... so I definitely wouldn't blame the WD 1st after reading that.

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