ThinkCentre M57 review
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:35 am
As promised (not that many are into Lenovo desktops here)...
Basic specs:
3.16Ghz E8500 Core 2 Duo, 8gigs 800Mhz RAM (newegg), ati radeon 2400 XT, Vista x64 Business, Small Form Factor (model 6072)
Review:
My reason for buying the Lenovo is that I wanted a small, quality, QUIET machine with good support, that would support 8gigs of ram and vista x64. I didn't find anything from other builders except for the Dell Optiplex, which I bought first. The Dell turned out to be WAY too loud. The fan noise on the Dell was annoying loud even from 15ft away. So I returned the Dell and ordered the M57 which took a couple of weeks to get.
The M57 small form factor is good looking in that IBM/Lenovo corporate way. It's a great size for putting on your desk. The box is designed well and can be serviced mostly without tools. All the usual stuff (changing HD, ram, etc.) is easy to do.
The Lenovo is much quieter out of the box than the Dell. I'd estimate that it is subjectively 70 percent less loud than the Dell was. Fan noise is there but it is perhaps at the volume of a whisper. However, the harddrive (Seagate 500gig) is still too loud. The seeks are loud but what is much more annoying is the constant, brain scrambling, hum around 120hz. I guess this is true of all hard drives that run at 7200rpm but the relatively small case and how the hard drive is mounted to it amplifies the hum from the hard drive. Hard drive hum is a problem in other cases too, it's just that the M57 is so quiet that the hum becomes irritating. I like the machine though, and didn't want to return it so I decided to try a laptop hard drive in it. I put a Seagate Momentus 5400.4 into it and now it's super quiet with just a little bit of fan noise (and only a small performance penalty).
As far as heat goes, the M57 probably does run hotter than the Dell Optiplex because the M57 is running fewer fans at slower rates. The CPU temp seems to range from 45c to 65c which is well within the limits (but hotter than some guys like). It's not a good case for overclocking, but that's to be expected.
Lenovo packs a lot of extra software onto their preload. So much so that it really seems to effect the performance of the machine. So after much pain and figuring out how to do a clean install(reading faqs, etc.), I did a clean install of Vista x64 Business and the machine is much snappier (very similar to XP). I have Vista down to 36 processes after a boot which is similar to a clean xp install.
So now I have a fresh install of Vista x64 on a laptop hard drive in the M57 and it all working well EXCEPT I can't get my Samsung 245t monitor to sleep. The screen goes black but the monitor never turns off. It appears that Vista and sleep don't work too well yet but this is not a deal killer just an annoyance.
Overall, happy with the machine.
Basic specs:
3.16Ghz E8500 Core 2 Duo, 8gigs 800Mhz RAM (newegg), ati radeon 2400 XT, Vista x64 Business, Small Form Factor (model 6072)
Review:
My reason for buying the Lenovo is that I wanted a small, quality, QUIET machine with good support, that would support 8gigs of ram and vista x64. I didn't find anything from other builders except for the Dell Optiplex, which I bought first. The Dell turned out to be WAY too loud. The fan noise on the Dell was annoying loud even from 15ft away. So I returned the Dell and ordered the M57 which took a couple of weeks to get.
The M57 small form factor is good looking in that IBM/Lenovo corporate way. It's a great size for putting on your desk. The box is designed well and can be serviced mostly without tools. All the usual stuff (changing HD, ram, etc.) is easy to do.
The Lenovo is much quieter out of the box than the Dell. I'd estimate that it is subjectively 70 percent less loud than the Dell was. Fan noise is there but it is perhaps at the volume of a whisper. However, the harddrive (Seagate 500gig) is still too loud. The seeks are loud but what is much more annoying is the constant, brain scrambling, hum around 120hz. I guess this is true of all hard drives that run at 7200rpm but the relatively small case and how the hard drive is mounted to it amplifies the hum from the hard drive. Hard drive hum is a problem in other cases too, it's just that the M57 is so quiet that the hum becomes irritating. I like the machine though, and didn't want to return it so I decided to try a laptop hard drive in it. I put a Seagate Momentus 5400.4 into it and now it's super quiet with just a little bit of fan noise (and only a small performance penalty).
As far as heat goes, the M57 probably does run hotter than the Dell Optiplex because the M57 is running fewer fans at slower rates. The CPU temp seems to range from 45c to 65c which is well within the limits (but hotter than some guys like). It's not a good case for overclocking, but that's to be expected.
Lenovo packs a lot of extra software onto their preload. So much so that it really seems to effect the performance of the machine. So after much pain and figuring out how to do a clean install(reading faqs, etc.), I did a clean install of Vista x64 Business and the machine is much snappier (very similar to XP). I have Vista down to 36 processes after a boot which is similar to a clean xp install.
So now I have a fresh install of Vista x64 on a laptop hard drive in the M57 and it all working well EXCEPT I can't get my Samsung 245t monitor to sleep. The screen goes black but the monitor never turns off. It appears that Vista and sleep don't work too well yet but this is not a deal killer just an annoyance.
Overall, happy with the machine.