Take a look at our
ThinkPads.com HOME PAGE
For those who might want to contribute to the blog, start here: Editors Alley Topic
Then contact Bill with a Private Message

W520 & SSD SATA III

W500/W510/W520 and W700/W701 Series
Post Reply
Message
Author
tom3k380
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:09 pm
Location: Chicago. Illinois

W520 & SSD SATA III

#1 Post by tom3k380 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:32 am

I want to put in an SSD into my W520.

Will it handle SATA III or should I stick with SATA II?

Also, what brands of SSDs do you recommend?
ThinkPad W520: i7-2760QM @ 2.40GHz ~ 20GB RAM ~ 500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD ~ 2GB NVIDIA Quadro 2000M ~ FHD+ @ 1920x1080 ~ Win 10 Pro x64.
ThinkPad T520: i5-2520M @ 2.50GHz ~ 8GB RAM ~ 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD ~ Intel HD 3000 ~ FHD+ @ 1920x1080 ~ Ubuntu 16.04 x64.

http302
Freshman Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:13 pm
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#2 Post by http302 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:58 am

Your 2.5" drive bay should be SATA III. From what I understand (I might be wrong on this), the ODD bay should also be SATA III.

You'll definitely see a nice boost in performance with a SATA III drive over a SATA II. If your vendor of choice has a SATA III drive that has been reviewed well, I'd say go for it.

Me personally, I am going with a 512gb Crucial M4 SSD (SATA III) to replace the 500gb drive that will be in the W520 that I will order later this week.
600X (2645-9WU), X41 Tablet (1866-6SU), W520 (4270-CTO)

Yes, I have been jaded by (purported) technocrats. Almost as jaded by the tech itself.

WA2SI
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:09 am
Location: Port Jefferson, NY

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#3 Post by WA2SI » Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:32 am

I'm also considering either the 240GB Patriot Pyro SE or 256GB Samsung 830 SATA III SSDs for my W520. Good luck with your upgrade.

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Rochefort
Sophomore Member
Posts: 207
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:14 pm
Location: Biarritz, France

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#4 Post by Rochefort » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:02 am

- IBM T60p/1,83 M/RAM:3 Gb/15' SXGA+ IPS Ati Fire GL V5250 256Mo /SSD Intel X25 E 32 GB /XP Pro
- HP 8740w - Core i5 540M 2.53 GHz - 17" LED WVA TFT 1920 x 1200 ( WUXGA ) NVIDIA Quadro FX 2800M 1 GB GDDR3 SDRAM- Samsung 850 Pro 500 GB SSD

ZaZ
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 4710
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 1:33 pm
Location: Minnesota

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#5 Post by ZaZ » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:38 am

The real benefit of a SSD for most uses is the near instantaneous seek times, not the throughput. That won't change going from SATA II to III as they're all .1ms. Only things that put a heavy load on the controller like copying and pasting are likely to benefit from the move to SATA III. Typical notebook usage does not put a heavy load on the controller.

I might suggest if you're not using WWAN, picking up a mSATA SSD. A mSATA SSD is a small SSD that plugs into the miniPCI slot on the motherboard. Once installed it's seen as another hard drive. The benefit of this arrangement is you can install the OS on the mSATA for speed and keep the platter drive in the main bay for storage where speed is not as important. I have this setup on my X220i. It's quite slick and much more cost effective than a 512GB SSD.
ThinkPad L14 - 2.1GHz Ryzen 4650U | 16GB | 256GB | 14" FHD | Win11P
ProBook 470 G5 - 1.6GHz Core i5 | 16GB | 2.2TB | 17" FHD | Mint

http302
Freshman Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:13 pm
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#6 Post by http302 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:07 pm

ZaZ wrote:The real benefit of a SSD for most uses is the near instantaneous seek times, not the throughput. That won't change going from SATA II to III as they're all .1ms. Only things that put a heavy load on the controller like copying and pasting are likely to benefit from the move to SATA III. Typical notebook usage does not put a heavy load on the controller.

I might suggest if you're not using WWAN, picking up a mSATA SSD. A mSATA SSD is a small SSD that plugs into the miniPCI slot on the motherboard. Once installed it's seen as another hard drive. The benefit of this arrangement is you can install the OS on the mSATA for speed and keep the platter drive in the main bay for storage where speed is not as important. I have this setup on my X220i. It's quite slick and much more cost effective than a 512GB SSD.
I was originally going to put an Intel 320 80GB mSATA card in and keep the 500gb spinning disk, but I decided to just make things simple and just replace the spinning disk (to be used as an UltraBay backup drive) with the M4 512GB.

Cost isn't a concern right now...
600X (2645-9WU), X41 Tablet (1866-6SU), W520 (4270-CTO)

Yes, I have been jaded by (purported) technocrats. Almost as jaded by the tech itself.

WA2SI
Posts: 42
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:09 am
Location: Port Jefferson, NY

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#7 Post by WA2SI » Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:46 pm

Well, cost is a concern for me - Lol! I just ordered my 256GB Samsung 830 from Newegg on sale for $299.99!

Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Kaze22
Sophomore Member
Posts: 159
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:38 pm
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#8 Post by Kaze22 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:35 pm

http302 wrote: I was originally going to put an Intel 320 80GB mSATA card in and keep the 500gb spinning disk, but I decided to just make things simple and just replace the spinning disk (to be used as an UltraBay backup drive) with the M4 512GB.

Cost isn't a concern right now...
If cost if no option you should still get a 128gb msata for your OS. Let me tell you why.
If you have your OS and Work drive on the same disk your 512ssd, you run into the problem of bottleneck if you try to massive read and write on the same disk. With your OS on a msata you open up the bandwith for your work drive and cause non of your software and OS will ever need to run off the work drive.
This way you get 250mb r/w on your OS drive.
And 500mb r/w on your work drive.
So in the end you should buy both the 512 ssd, and a 128gb msata.
Thinkpad W520 | Intel i7 2.5 XM | 1920x1080 FHD 95% Gamut | 32 GB DDR3 | 128GB MyDigitalSSD mSATA SSD | 2GB NVIDIA QUADRO 2000M | UEFI WIN 7

http302
Freshman Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:13 pm
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: W520 & SSD SATA III

#9 Post by http302 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:40 am

Kaze22 wrote:If cost if no option you should still get a 128gb msata for your OS. Let me tell you why.
If you have your OS and Work drive on the same disk your 512ssd, you run into the problem of bottleneck if you try to massive read and write on the same disk. With your OS on a msata you open up the bandwith for your work drive and cause non of your software and OS will ever need to run off the work drive.
This way you get 250mb r/w on your OS drive.
And 500mb r/w on your work drive.
So in the end you should buy both the 512 ssd, and a 128gb msata.
Thank you for for the post, but honestly, the mSATA interface is a greater bottleneck than just running everything on a 2.5" SSD. Also, if you're constantly pushing 250+MB/s on your drives, you don't need a laptop, you need a server with an attached SAN.

Yes, cost was not a limiting factor in the build of this laptop. That being said, I'm not going to spend money on something that most likely will offer no perceivable benefit.

The setup I have is plenty fast for what I need. *shrugs* This isn't my first computer configuration rodeo.
600X (2645-9WU), X41 Tablet (1866-6SU), W520 (4270-CTO)

Yes, I have been jaded by (purported) technocrats. Almost as jaded by the tech itself.

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “ThinkPad W500/W510/W520 and W700/W701 Series”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests