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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:21 pm 
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On my T540p running Win 7 64 I have 444GB of hard disk space. A few days ago I only had about 70GB of free space. So I shifted a lot of files to a network HDD, deleted loads of old stuff, and managed to have over 80GB free. Today I have 26.8GB free. Hardly anything has been added by me since I had over 80GB free.
I did a search using the argument size:gigantic and there are a few files of 600Mb showing but nothing exceptional.
All music files and most photos are on the network HDD.
I ran Malwarebytes. No malware found.
I ran MSSE scan. Nothing found.

What could be causing this?

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 12:26 pm 
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Are you running any backup software? If they are set to take snapshots of the drive, then they can eat up a lot of space.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:27 pm 
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Instead of trouble shooting the problem, add a 1TB HDD in either the primary or secondary slot. If that drive fills up, trouble shoot.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:56 pm 
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The old DOS-user in me would take a "snapshot" of the entire disk at one point in time, wait for a day or two and then take another snapshot.

Open a DOS window, cd to C:\ and type: dir/a/s > c:\full_disk_listing_before.txt

Let some time pass then: dir/a/s > c:\full_disk_listing_after.txt

To compare the two listings: fc /l /w full_disk_listing_before.txt full_disk_listing_after.txt

There may be a Windows utility that does the same thing.

edit: Note that if you use a browser during that interval, then the files that are cached will be different. To avoid/minimize this, purge your browser(s) cache before running the dir command.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:02 pm 
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I went to the pub this evening ... well, it is Friday night ... and the local Windows guru said to try "treesize" free version. I did, and it showed that Rescue & Recovery was the culprit.
Having deleted all but the base recovery file form R&R gave me 191GB of free space.
I don't remember R&R doing this in the past in its previous forms.
Lesson learnt ... when your system is stable delete the R&R files, do a new backup and away you go.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:06 pm 
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Like I said, there's a Windows utility that can do this but it's fun using DOS! Hmmm... maybe not possible with DOS if R&R uses another partition to save the files. I'm not familiar with the ins-and-outs of R&R as I prefer to do my own backups.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 4:29 pm 
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Thanks Ray,

The largest file now is in Windows and is called CSC, nearly 100GB. After that comes Winsxs at 10GB which in the context of things is tiny.
A search on CSC warns about trying to mess with it as it can cause a complete failure.
I'm finding this all rather mind boggling. :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 8:18 pm 
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CSC seems rather unnecessary.
http://www.google.com/baraza/en/thread? ... 41852a240d

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 4:51 pm 
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Thanks for the advice, RBS, but Win 7 64bit doesn't allow any of the stuff you suggested.
My real concern is Lenovo R&R which is still taking acres of HD space despite being on a separate partition.
I really fail to understand this and am thinking of ditching R&R in favour of an alternative.

Any suggestions?

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Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 6:57 pm 
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For my "mission critical" machines, which currently are three A31p systems, I clone the drives (when the mood strikes me; don't have a real schedule) using Ghost. I prefer doing it this way, rather than imaging, as I can simply swap the drives and be back to where I was when the cloned copy was made. Granted, it's not a system which allows me to have daily or weekly backups but I can live with it. For the important files that I need to be able to refer and/or update no matter where I am or what system I'm using, those are on Dropbox.

edit: I should say that for my main home A31p, it's a little bit of an extra challenge to backup. I'm booting from an Ultrabay-connected 320GB SATA drive in the right bay. The main HDD bay is empty although I'm thinking about putting one back in there some day. The left Ultrabay has a DVD writer. The system is always mounted to a port replicator and in turn, there's a external floppy drive attached using the floppy port (not USB). So, to backup I remove the DVD writer, put another Ultrabay SATA HDD adapter in with a 320GB drive and boot from a Ghost 2003 floppy. The other A31p systems are more "normal" in that I use an Ultrabay PATA HDD adapter to clone from the main drive. Those systems are also on port replicators or docking stations using the same type of floppy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:44 pm 
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I think I have solved matters for the time being. All R&R stuff has been copied to my NAS drive. I then made sure I had an R&R recovery disk on CD. After uninstalling R&R and deleting anything on the C drive, I reinstalled R&R. Suddenly I have 262 GB of free space on my C drive. If I didn't have to pay for a replacement recovery service (like Acronis) then I'd dump R&R completely. Safety first though.
BTW, I discovered there was a fault with a hardware part while doing diagnostics. A chap from Lenovo came within 24 hours and replaced the faulty 16 GB SSD card. Thank heavens for 3 year warranty.

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Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

Dogs must be carried on the escalator. Where can I find a dog?


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