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Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

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Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#1 Post by euless » Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:17 pm

Hi

Anyone has a T440P with Middleton BIOS...does the M. BIOS allow you to change the Fan profile?

By fan profile, I mean a temperature setting that determine when the Fan speed go from 0 to 1. My Fan stays at speed 0 until 50 deg.

Thanks!!!


p.s. I know about TPFanControl. But it does not work in other OS like OpenBSD, Plan9, etc. And letting BIOS control the fan is better.

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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#2 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 pm

Middleton's modded BIOS exists only for the T61, R61, X61, and X300 AFAIK-- all of which used the Intel 965 chipset.

I've never heard of a modded Thinkpad BIOS that has customizable fan control profiles.
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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#3 Post by euless » Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:51 pm

axur-delmeria wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 pm
Middleton's modded BIOS exists only for the T61, R61, X61, and X300 AFAIK-- all of which used the Intel 965 chipset.

I've never heard of a modded Thinkpad BIOS that has customizable fan control profiles.
Sorry, my bad.

I saw an old Youtube video titled "ThinkPad T440P Unlock BIOS Advanced menus". The guy showed this modded BIOS revealed a hidden menu called Advanced. In the video, I saw there is a submenu labeled "Thermal Configuration." I like to know if this would allow me to change the fan profile.

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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#4 Post by axur-delmeria » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:39 am

The problem with those modified BIOSes is that all the hidden menus and options are shown, even the ones that either:

* don't work, or
* brick the laptop when certain settings are changed

By "brick", I mean "no display, no error beep" with the only way to fix it is to flash the BIOS chip externally.

I only flashed the unlocked BIOS on my X220 to remove the WiFi whitelist and max out the RAM speed.
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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#5 Post by euless » Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:20 am

axur-delmeria wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:39 am
The problem with those modified BIOSes is that all the hidden menus and options are shown, even the ones that either:

* don't work, or
* brick the laptop when certain settings are changed

By "brick", I mean "no display, no error beep" with the only way to fix it is to flash the BIOS chip externally.

I only flashed the unlocked BIOS on my X220 to remove the WiFi whitelist and max out the RAM speed.
Hi
Yes, the Youtuber flashed the BIOS with a "CH341a external programmer" and a clip.
I really want a more aggressive fan. I live in a hot climate with no air conditioning.

Does anyone know if is it possible to find the original BIOS from the factory (I mean, version 1.0)?
The reason I may want to flash version 1.0 is because I read that the first batch of T440Ps had very aggressive fan profile,
but users were not happy about the noise from the fan. So later T440Ps were quiet. I suspect Lenovo must be adjusted the fan profile in the BIOS updates, to appease unhappy customers.

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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#6 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:04 am

If you have integrated graphics, get the discrete graphics fan.
Replace thermal paste with Honeywell PTM7950 thermal pads.
Read this to properly install it: https://community.frame.work/t/honeywel ... ults/20245
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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#7 Post by euless » Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:10 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:04 am
If you have integrated graphics, get the discrete graphics fan.
Replace thermal paste with Honeywell PTM7950 thermal pads.
Read this to properly install it: https://community.frame.work/t/honeywel ... ults/20245
RBS,

With the CPU running at 100% for over 10 minutes (Cinebench test), my CPU temp is steady around 72-deg. But, the left palm rest stays very cool!!!
I can feel hot air being blown out by the fan.

However, with light load (running only Edge Browser with 1 tab surfing this forum ), my CPU temp is between 50-55 deg, but the left palm rest would get warm. Because the fan does not turn on at this temperature.

Hence, I think the BIOS/EC fan profile is the problem.

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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#8 Post by euless » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:26 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:04 am
If you have integrated graphics, get the discrete graphics fan.
Replace thermal paste with Honeywell PTM7950 thermal pads.
Read this to properly install it: https://community.frame.work/t/honeywel ... ults/20245
Just want to report that I just tried PTM7950, and it did not improve the thermal performance. It actually feels a little bit worse than thermal paste during light load.

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Re: Does Middleton allow changing Fan Profile?

#9 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:54 am

How did your PTM7950 arrive, with blue or clear protective film?
Was it 0.20mm or 0.25mm thick?
If blue, it was fake!
If 0.20mm, it was fake!

See e.g. here.
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