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#211 Post by superdx » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:10 pm

Also been exactly one week since I swapped, and still ok, no corruption. The 2010 screen goes by so fast I've only noticed it once...

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#212 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:10 am

Here's an interesting touch:
http://blog.vlad1.com/archives/2005/12/ ... mment-2066

Someone with the same chipset (different laptop), has no problem. Meaning not every manufacturer sets up their BIOS to do this. He installed a e7k100 with no problem.
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#213 Post by vennstrom » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:04 am

I just bought my 2nd TP on Christmas and upgraded the HD to Samsung 80Gb 5400, it showed the same display and the shop owner gave me the updated T43 BIOS 1.02, after I updated, didn't see the problem anymore.
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#214 Post by superdx » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:44 am

vennstrom wrote:I just bought my 2nd TP on Christmas and upgraded the HD to Samsung 80Gb 5400, it showed the same display and the shop owner gave me the updated T43 BIOS 1.02, after I updated, didn't see the problem anymore.
1.02 is a really old BIOS. But if your machine runs fine, then no reason to upgrade. The latest one is 1.24 I believe.

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#215 Post by vennstrom » Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:34 pm

is it possible to rollback the BIOS version?

I would like to try if 1.24 is working or not, currently 1.02 and I have no problem so far. just want to try.
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T43p and error 2010

#216 Post by hmrj » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:15 pm

Does anyone know whether there is a technical reason for introducing error 2010. Could a non-compliant drive introduce errors ? I have experienced disk errors with a non compliant drive (Travelstar 60G - 7200 rpm -HTS726060M9AT00) in T43p (2687-D5U).

:?:

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#217 Post by jdhurst » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:21 pm

I would be curious as well. That is exactly the drive I use in my T41 and it is problem-free. I had an early one fail (well document APS-related failure) and purchased a second one because I couldn't wait for Hitachi to replace it. So now I have two, and both work just great. ... JD Hurst

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#218 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:20 pm

It appears other laptops with the same chipset don't have the limitation in the BIOS... making me wonder why this is the case only with Thinkpads.
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Seagate momentus ST9100824A 100GB 5400rpm works!

#219 Post by iein » Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:47 pm

I bought a 100GB ST9100824A from Fry's last week and it works great. No bios message or beep out of the box. I have a T43 2686-DGU with bios 1.24.

I originally had a 7k60 and this appears to be a superior drive. Much faster and quieter. Unable to discern any battery performance negatives/positives. No data issues or corruption.

** NB: The package at Fry's was Seagate internal retail kit with part number ST9100823A-RK. To my surprise the drive in the box was a SS9100824A. The drive has firmware revision 3.04.

Very happy. I paid $179.

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#220 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:02 am

You can find one of those here too:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=101523

I'd buy it, if I knew it would work. Problem is you never know what firmware is on the drive.
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#221 Post by dino » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:01 pm

About a month ago I bought ST9100823A-RK http://www.compusa.com/products/product ... 3&pfp=cat3
I needed it asap so I bought it from one of their stores. I got the error message but I was also getting read errors on every other boot so I returned it. (I don't know the firmware) Right now, got a ST980825A (80GB 7.2K) on route to me now. I'll report when I get it.
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#222 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:38 am

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I dont think I'll wait on lenovo... so which drive works?

#223 Post by barnickle » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:37 pm

I dont think I'll put my faith in Lenovo ever fixing this. It could happen but holding my breath seems a waste.

So, what 7200 RPM drives WILL work in my t43? I have a T43 model 266875U running firmware 1.03 and BIOS 1.24 (1YET59WW). I dont want to buy one of the mega-pricey Seagate drives (the 100Megger is $300!) but any 60-80Gb would be fine. As well, if you have one working can you let me know where you bought it? I generally use the almighty newegg.com but in this case I really just need it to work. I can't see downgrading my BIOS as anything but a invitation to disaster.

Anyway, any input would be great. I have a brand new laptop and am now holding one 60Gb 7200rpm drive that must be used in the ultra bay. I dont want to end up with two. If you've had good luck with a fast drive please let me know the make/model/part number and your t43 model and bios.

Cheers,

mb

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#224 Post by vennstrom » Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:05 am

Driven by irritation by 2010 and curiosity.

I bought Fujitsu MHV2080AH (80g,5400) production date Oct 2005, made in Thailand, checked with thinkpad firmware utility = updated

My BIOS is 1.24

WORKING OUT OF THE BOX!!

Hope this'll help others.
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#225 Post by dino » Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:05 pm

NO more 2010 for me. :D :D :D

I just got a seagate 80 gig 7200.1 ST980825A.

Bios 1.24 EC bios 1.04
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hitachi drive

#226 Post by darths68 » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:33 pm

Is there any hope for a Hitachi HTS721010G9AT00?

Hitachi said the firmware updates from Lenovo will not work for this drive

Lenovo said to call Hitachi and they could help me

Basically no help from either side

When I boot with the drive I get the 2010 error, but then my machine doesn't boot either - has anyone else actually had the drive not WORK or is it just the 2010 error people are getting?

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#227 Post by vovus » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:53 pm

just update bios to latest and switch there "bypass 2010 error and boot" option, i forget about it at all, coz use sleep mode - not close win every time finish my day.. :)
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#228 Post by DIGITALgimpus » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:06 pm

It's up to IBM/Lenovo
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Hitachi HTS721010G9AT00?

#229 Post by wivel » Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:35 pm

Having the exact same problem as Darths68 om my T43

I have the latest bios and controller updates, have bypassed 2010 but the machine does not seem to find the disc.

Any help is much appreciated

Wivel

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#230 Post by phewtoo » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:31 pm

This looks to be an emotive issue!

After a 'Google', I have only looked at the first & Last few posts in my search for something that would allow my T43p UC3F8UK to read an HITACHI Travelstar 5K80 80GB 5400RPM (08K0639) 2.5IN drive -purchased 12 months ago, but never used...until now-. So don't jump on me for what follows -I will read through the thread-.

Is there an answer to my problem reading that drive -maybe I have the wrong Bios-?

Is anyone 'researching' the issue with IDA -or similar-?

My newly installed drive just does not work for me :(
I had taken the original out of the laptop and used 'Ghost 2003' copy that to the new drive.

Any help appreciated,
thanks.

[EDIT]
After reading the full thread...and after a couple of failed attempts, I eventually got there :)

Thanks to all who passed on the information.

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strange wake up behaviour - is this related to error 2010

#231 Post by jimmi1977 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:01 pm

I noticed a very strange behaviour. My t43p, if it sleeps for a small amount of time, probably less than 1/2 hour, wakes up fine. When it sleeps more than that, or boots up from hibernation, it takes almost 10 minutes to get to login prompt. The only mod I have done to the system is a hitachi 7k100 hard drive (which gives me an infamous 2010 error at bootup). Has anyone noticed similar behaviour? I am at latest bios level/IBM drivers.

Any ideas???

Thanks!

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Re: strange wake up behaviour - is this related to error 201

#232 Post by hoya » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:19 am

jimmi1977 wrote:I noticed a very strange behaviour. My t43p, if it sleeps for a small amount of time, probably less than 1/2 hour, wakes up fine. When it sleeps more than that, or boots up from hibernation, it takes almost 10 minutes to get to login prompt. The only mod I have done to the system is a hitachi 7k100 hard drive (which gives me an infamous 2010 error at bootup). Has anyone noticed similar behaviour? I am at latest bios level/IBM drivers.

Any ideas???

Thanks!
that happens to me if I leave several firefox windows open before hibernating.

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Updated firmware for 7K100 / HTS721010G9AT00

#233 Post by Noel » Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:53 pm

I have not tried this, yet --- downloading as I type --- but the "Hard drive firmware update utility - ThinkPad General" was recently updated to include:

<FWHD41>
Model Firmware
---------------- --------
[ Hitachi ]
HTS7210xxG9AT00 A51A

See: http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-62282

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#234 Post by Noel » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:28 am

The IBM Firmware updater, despite listing the HTS7210xxG9AT00, does not work. It sees the RETAIL firmware instead of the IBM OEM firmware, and refuses to update the drive.

Speaking to Hitachi, I was told:
there is no firmware update required for Hitachi drives to operate correctly.
Essentially, the allegation is that while there might be a technical basis in some cases, in many others the POST 2010 error is being used to incent customers to buy only IBM labeled parts.

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#235 Post by CoolDragon » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:55 pm

Can somebody verify that "Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST910021A 100GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer" works with T43/p without the 2010 error?

Thanks a lot!
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#236 Post by JHaislet » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:58 am

CoolDragon wrote:Can somebody verify that "Seagate Momentus 7200.1 ST910021A 100GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer" works with T43/p without the 2010 error?

Thanks a lot!
+1 Even interested in the 120GB as well.
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#237 Post by CoolDragon » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:56 pm

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_w ... hard_disks

According to this page, ST910021A should work.
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#238 Post by Aroc » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:52 am

I have the 1.24 BIOS in my T43 [2687e8u], and get the 2010 error with my 100GB 7k100 (obviously). I don't mind the displayed error so much (it flies by quick enough without user input) but the beep is very loud. If I could suppress the beep, I'd be happy.
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#239 Post by CoolDragon » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:22 pm

Looks like the Seagate price is catching up with Hitachi !

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=101599
Current: T43P-2687D5U: P-M 2G, 2G RAM, FireGL V3200 128M, 80G 5400 RPM(Will be 100G 7K100 when 2010 gone!), 15' UXGA, Multi Burner, Intel A/B/G, Bluetooth, 9 Cell, Fingerprint Reader, WinXP Pro
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#240 Post by CupOfJoe » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:36 pm

CoolDragon wrote:Looks like the Seagate price is catching up with Hitachi !

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDe ... ode=101599

Hi CoolDragon,

Been lurking a while, just now registered.

I've got on order a t43p 2687-d5u (same as yours), and am interested in upgrading the hard drive to a 7200rpm unit.

I've read through this whole thread, and have come away from it somewhat confused if the Seagate drive you listed in the link above will actually work without giving the nasty 2010 POST error.

(I realize there's a BIOS update which lets you bypass the 2010 error code, but I'm looking for full drive/laptop compatibility.)

Are you able to enlighten me any? I'd purchase this drive and try it out (once my laptop arrives), but the 15% restocking fee imposed by the various online vendors kind of keeps me at bay from just going for it.

So what do ya know about this? (Or what don't you know?)

:D

Thanks kindly,
CupOfJoe

P.S. - I know you posted a week or so back asking for verification of this very question -- I guess I'm basically wondering if you've learned anything since then. Maybe I should rephrase the question: Do you know of *any* 7200rpm drive (of any size -- 40GB, 60GB, 80GB, etc.) which will work out of the box on our unit (t43p 2687-d5u) without a 2010 error code?

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