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Cheap 256MB PC133 RAM for the 600X?!?!?
Cheap 256MB PC133 RAM for the 600X?!?!?
Crucial.com lists their PC133 256MB RAM as being compatible with the 600X series Thinkpad.
This is apparently due to the fact that Crucial/Micron has overcome the lo-density problem in their PC133 RAM vs. PC100.
I've just ordered two sticks and i'll be trying them in my hangar Queen 600X.
Regards,
James
This is apparently due to the fact that Crucial/Micron has overcome the lo-density problem in their PC133 RAM vs. PC100.
I've just ordered two sticks and i'll be trying them in my hangar Queen 600X.
Regards,
James
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What's the low density problem? I'd heard there was some subtle timing issue with pc133 memory and the Intel chipset used in that generation of Thinkpads, so pc133 memory physically fits in the machine and somewhat works, but is unreliable. I also see though that Crucial now lists pc133 as compatible with the A20p, which I'd formerly gone to some hassle to get pc100 memory for without paying an arm and a leg.
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i bought this a little while ago for my 600E
http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.d ... 6847396270
i read that it needs to have 8 chips on each side to work in the 600? it has 4 on each side and works well!!
edit: by works well, i meant i get BSOD about every two or three weeks. blame it on the memory!
http://cgi1.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.d ... 6847396270
i read that it needs to have 8 chips on each side to work in the 600? it has 4 on each side and works well!!
edit: by works well, i meant i get BSOD about every two or three weeks. blame it on the memory!
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Update
UPS just delivered the memory from Crucial. Five days from order to delivery, a new record for Crucial for lethargy.
I just installed them in a 2645-UN2 (PIII 500MHz 600X) hangar Queen.
Each stick is marked "256MB 144-PIN SODIMM 32MX64 PC133 CL2".
Results?
Installed - 589,824KB.
Usable - 589,248KB!
Let there be rejoicing throughout the land!
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I just installed them in a 2645-UN2 (PIII 500MHz 600X) hangar Queen.
Each stick is marked "256MB 144-PIN SODIMM 32MX64 PC133 CL2".
Results?
Installed - 589,824KB.
Usable - 589,248KB!
Let there be rejoicing throughout the land!
Regards,
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Slightly OT but still cheap!
I've been having good luck finding 256MB PC100 CL2 memory for my 600X systems on eBay for the last couple of months for around $30-$40, including shipping. Two examples:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6875565646
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6874312410
Mostly I try to get the Micron MT16LSDF3264HG-10 modules, but I've also bought Samsung. It pains me to buy any modules because I work for a company who used to made DRAMS and I'm sure some of our old PC100 stock was tossed out several years ago when it "wasn't worth anything anymore" .
If you're patient enough and construct a good search string, it's just a matter of sniping a couple here and there. Then a few hours with PC Doctor and memtest86+ and you have a 576MB 600X! As of today, you can see in my signature that I've got one more system to go....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6875565646
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 6874312410
Mostly I try to get the Micron MT16LSDF3264HG-10 modules, but I've also bought Samsung. It pains me to buy any modules because I work for a company who used to made DRAMS and I'm sure some of our old PC100 stock was tossed out several years ago when it "wasn't worth anything anymore" .
If you're patient enough and construct a good search string, it's just a matter of sniping a couple here and there. Then a few hours with PC Doctor and memtest86+ and you have a 576MB 600X! As of today, you can see in my signature that I've got one more system to go....
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the item i posted above does in fact work fine in the 600e and 570. the BSODs i kept getting were due to an older 64mb card that was also installed. $37-$40 depending if you bid or buy it now, shipped. kingston brand.
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Crucial PC133 Works, Interesting Price!!
Based on James' experience with the Crucial PC133 CL2 256k memory, I also purchased one from Crucial. It works perfectly in my old 600x (2646-4EU).
I did observe something very interesting with the price listed on the Crucial website. The first day I looked the price was 53 USD (free shipping), the next day the price was 51 USD, the next day the price was 45.73 USD where I purchased. A few days later I looked again and the price was 90 USD and today it is 84 USD!!! So I guess it would be good idea to watch the price for a while to get the best deal, it changes faster than I change my underwear!!
Prior to purchasing the Crucial, I puchased a "noname" memory from a dealer that was supposed to be 600x compatible, it would not boot at all (did get a refund), next I purchase a new Kingston KTM-TP390X/256 through eBay (Kingston's website says this module is compatible with the 600x), it also would not work (shows installed, but not useable)!!
Sure was glad to see the Crucial work perfectly...
Thanks,
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I did observe something very interesting with the price listed on the Crucial website. The first day I looked the price was 53 USD (free shipping), the next day the price was 51 USD, the next day the price was 45.73 USD where I purchased. A few days later I looked again and the price was 90 USD and today it is 84 USD!!! So I guess it would be good idea to watch the price for a while to get the best deal, it changes faster than I change my underwear!!
Prior to purchasing the Crucial, I puchased a "noname" memory from a dealer that was supposed to be 600x compatible, it would not boot at all (did get a refund), next I purchase a new Kingston KTM-TP390X/256 through eBay (Kingston's website says this module is compatible with the 600x), it also would not work (shows installed, but not useable)!!
Sure was glad to see the Crucial work perfectly...
Thanks,
Charlie
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Re: Crucial PC133 Works, Interesting Price!!
it changes every day and you don't?cecooper wrote:it changes faster than I change my underwear!!
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Re: Slightly OT but still cheap!
I got even luckier about 5 months ago: a low-density 256MB PC100 memory for a friend's X20 for $19 on eBay, shipped! I am not sure why so few people bidded. I suspect it was the fuzzy photo shown, which made it look more like a high-density stick.rkawakami wrote:I've been having good luck finding 256MB PC100 CL2 memory for my 600X systems on eBay for the last couple of months for around $30-$40, including shipping.
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Another PC133 working
A while back I took some RAM sticks out of some other laptops to pop in my 600x (2645-5EG). They were both 128mb but one was PC100 the other PC133. I figured both being older types of RAM they would work. So I popped them in and sure enough when booting my 600x it checked and found about 327mb (128mb + 128mb + 64mb-inbuilt). Does this mean my machine accepted this form of PC133 as well? Or do you have to run another check to see if this RAM is actually working and being used by the computer (if so is there some software that does this similar to the CPU speed checking software)?
Also is there a massive performance difference between PC100 vs PC133 because I looking to max out my RAM with to sticks of 256mb off the old eBay (is this advisable?)
Thanks in advance!
P.s. I'm not sure what make of PC133 I put - I'll check later and post.
Also is there a massive performance difference between PC100 vs PC133 because I looking to max out my RAM with to sticks of 256mb off the old eBay (is this advisable?)
Thanks in advance!
P.s. I'm not sure what make of PC133 I put - I'll check later and post.
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There is a massive performance difference between PC100 and PC133 - but only on a system that can run the memory bus at 133MHz. The old dog of an Athlon 1300 that I'm typing this on slows down a lot if I switch the memory speed down to 100MHz. A 600X (or a 570E) can't run it at 133 so it will make no difference.
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Re: Another PC133 working
On your 600x, you won't see any difference between PC100 and PC133, because the max FSB is 100 MHz, and, if you put PC133 in your machine, it'll run @ 100 MHz.Mannersxxx wrote:Also is there a massive performance difference between PC100 vs PC133 because I looking to max out my RAM with to sticks of 256mb off the old eBay (is this advisable?)
If you take very poor PC100 RAM, and if you overclock, then, you could see difference, in terms of system stability.
Note that PC133 is nowadays generally cheaper than PC100, so, it's a better choice.
Of course, buying them via eBay is a good choice, just make sure that they will run on your system.
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I'm doing some serches now but how would you tell if a 256 meg pc-100/133 is low density or high density?
I have a 570E P-III500.I'm guessing this 570E system takes the same ram as the 600X.So when i go looking for ram should i look for low density?
I have a 570E P-III500.I'm guessing this 570E system takes the same ram as the 600X.So when i go looking for ram should i look for low density?
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256mb LOW density sticks will have 8 black chips on EACH side of the stick, for a total of 16 chips. A high density stick will only have 8 chips total....4 on each side.SaberX wrote:I'm doing some serches now but how would you tell if a 256 meg pc-100/133 is low density or high density?
I have a 570E P-III500.I'm guessing this 570E system takes the same ram as the 600X.So when i go looking for ram should i look for low density?
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A 256MB low-density module has 16 total memory chips (8 per side). The high-density version will only have 8 total chips (4 per side).
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Re: Cheap 256MB PC133 RAM for the 600X?!?!?
Just a quick note, that I just tried this exact same RAM in my own 600x and it works perfectly.JHEM wrote:Crucial.com lists their PC133 256MB RAM as being compatible with the 600X series Thinkpad.
This is apparently due to the fact that Crucial/Micron has overcome the lo-density problem in their PC133 RAM vs. PC100.
I've just ordered two sticks and i'll be trying them in my hangar Queen 600X.
Regards,
James
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It would.Nesh wrote: I ordered two 128MB sticks yesterday, PC133 and high-density, will it work on my 600e?
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Upgrading my 570 with 256mb ram
Someone just gave me a 570 to add to my thinkpad collection. It was a gift! Seems to work perfectly. Of course, the 128mb ram is a problem. After reading some of the threads here I plan on picking up a 256mb stick and then should have a workable system (Running windows 2000 now). I was thinking of getting the Crucial 256 mb module as described in this thread. I went to Crucial and they had a 256mg stick for the 570e but not for the 570. I figure that's because the specs for the 570 are only for 192mb maximum, but have read that you can add a 256mb module, rather than a 128mb module. I would think that getting the stick that's compatible with the 570e and various 600 versions would be good (which I believe is the same as the one mentioned at the top of the thread), but just wanted any feedback (or reassurance) from people here.
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I found a manufacturer in Pennsylvania, that continues to make 128MB PC100 Low Density modules.
Compatible with IBM P/N 20L0255, used in a.o.:
1200i, 130, 1300i, 1400i, 1500i, 1800i,
240, 240X/Z,
390, 390e/x,
570, 570E,
600, 600E/X,
770, 770E/ED/X/Z,
A20M, A21E, A21M, A22M, A20P, A21P, A22P,
T20, T21,T22,
R30,
X20, X21, X22, X23, X24
http://cgi.ebay.com/128MB-PC100-PC-100- ... 0235884763
$13.99 (or best offer) ea. + shipping free.
Compatible with IBM P/N 20L0255, used in a.o.:
1200i, 130, 1300i, 1400i, 1500i, 1800i,
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http://cgi.ebay.com/128MB-PC100-PC-100- ... 0235884763
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The way I read their description on how they "make" memory modules, it leads me to believe that for some of their modules they simply take old memory chips ("We purchase VIRTUALLY ANYTHING with DRAM on it.") and attach them to their own boards. They do say that they re-sell tier 1 (aka major name-branded) modules that may have been refurbished. To me, that means defective modules have been re-worked to identify the failing component and replaced with another one. As long as the modules have undergone some kind of effective testing (I've sent a message to them asking about their procedures) and they back up their 30-day money back guarantee, then that should be fine.
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Re: Cheap 256MB PC133 RAM for the 600X?!?!?
There are several vendors with memory as you said (rebuilt), they seem to only list products described as "Condition: Like New"
This is all well and fine with me, I mean if ram is gonna fail, it normally happens early on, I think i would rather have memory that has been used is old and STILL works
I just fixed an old Smith Corona/Acer 286 machine... dug out 4 1M 30pin simm sticks from a box (they were just tossed in and not in static bags... they worked flawlessly... I seriously doubt these sticks will EVER die
This is all well and fine with me, I mean if ram is gonna fail, it normally happens early on, I think i would rather have memory that has been used is old and STILL works
I just fixed an old Smith Corona/Acer 286 machine... dug out 4 1M 30pin simm sticks from a box (they were just tossed in and not in static bags... they worked flawlessly... I seriously doubt these sticks will EVER die
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