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[solved] T42 volume: system sounds/music loud, movies quiet

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[solved] T42 volume: system sounds/music loud, movies quiet

#1 Post by Paul Unger » Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:39 am

I guess the subject line says it all: system sounds are acceptably loud, as is playing music (mp3/wma with Windows Media Player) and games, but if I try to watch a movie the volume tanks--I can hardly hear it . . . both with Media Player and WinDVD. All sliders are maxed in Volume Control; none are muted. Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere? This is very frustrating! :evil:
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#2 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:18 am

Check the volume control on the DVD app. WinDVD has a volume control on it. Also make sure your hardware volume control is maxed out (second button to the right of the Access IBM button).
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#3 Post by Paul Unger » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:05 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Check the volume control on the DVD app. WinDVD has a volume control on it. Also make sure your hardware volume control is maxed out (second button to the right of the Access IBM button).
Roger. Everything is maxed--hardware button (14 green bars), Media Player (as I said, music plays loud in Media Player), WinDVD. Any other ideas? I'm thinking it's something in the registry, because it's just so weird. Everything else is loud, but put a movie in and--while it is audible--it is barely so.
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#4 Post by Paul Unger » Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:29 pm

AHA! Found this for Vista.

"SYMPTOM
You insert a DVD disk to watch a movie on a Windows Vista-based portable computer. You use Windows Media Player (Wmplayer.exe) or an application in Windows Media Center (Ehshell.exe) to watch the movie. However, the overall volume seems to be too low. For example, when you set maximum gain on all volume controls that are available in the audio mixer, system sounds and CD music playback are loud enough. However, DVD playback volume is still not loud enough.
"CAUSE
This problem occurs because the default playback decoding mode of the AC-3 (Dolby Digital) streams is set to Normal mode. For DVD playback on portable computers, the default playback decoding mode should be set to Laptop Mode (RF decoding mode). The Laptop Mode (RF decoding mode) provides an additional increase in gain of 11 dB."

The article outlines a registry fix. Does anyone know if this applies to XP as well?
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#5 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:12 pm

I searched this forum and found a little information that may help. Apparantly movies output AC3 sound. Using a different AC3 decoder can make a difference.

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srirams wrote:best option is to install AC3Filter and let it decode ac3 audio. You can then go in and adjust the gain and range normalization.

Even so you're not going to get room filling sound; but it should be somewhat better.
EDIT: After I posted this I reread your last post. Looks like you are already hot on the trail.
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#6 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:14 pm

Here is some other info I found.
HP wrote:3. If movie playback in WinDVD is not smooth and/or the sound volume is too low, try disabling hardware acceleration. If your PC does not have WinDVD, skip this step.

a. Open InterVideo WinDVD.
b. Right-Click in the main InterVideo WinDVD window.
c. Click Setup in the drop-down menu.
d. Click the Video tab at the top of the Setup window.
e. Remove the selection next to Use Hardware Decode Acceleration to deselect it (remove the check mark from the check box).
Resolving DVD Movie Problems in Windows 98, ME and XP

The site below has some information in a thread, and codec downloads on the left.
http://www.free-codecs.com/reviews/Wind ... Player.htm
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#7 Post by Paul Unger » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:42 pm

GomJabbar wrote:I searched this forum and found a little information that may help. Apparantly movies output AC3 sound. Using a different AC3 decoder can make a difference.

EDIT: After I posted this I reread your last post. Looks like you are already hot on the trail.
Yep. AC3filterwas the ticket! I installed the .exe, increased the 'Master' level on the Main tab to 10, and BOOM--I've got volume (well, for dinky laptop speakers, anyway)! I actually had to turn it down. :shock: Time to make some popcorn. :)
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#8 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:37 pm

Glad you found the solution. I'll have to remember this one. :wink:
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Re: [solved] T42 volume: system sounds/music loud, movies quiet

#9 Post by ironworks11 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:49 am

But... my new X201 is really quiet when playing music in the media player or anything else. I can barely hear it in my headphones when on a flight. I've maxed all the controls and also tried the AC3Filter app to see if that helped, but to no avail. I think the audio chip setup on this model is just not loud enough. Previous Thinkpads I've had have always been OK. Has anyone got any other ideas of how the volume might be boosted?

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