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X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
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X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Has anyone tried the USB 3.0 Expresscards that line up flush with the unit?
Like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Express-Card-Expres ... 336977bf27
Update:
Purchased an Expresscard-eSATA flush card, which has arrived and is definitely worth the $8 I paid.
Also purchased an Expresscard-USB3.0 flush card for $12.50, and am waiting for it in the mail. My forecast: it'll be worth it.
Like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Express-Card-Expres ... 336977bf27
Update:
Purchased an Expresscard-eSATA flush card, which has arrived and is definitely worth the $8 I paid.
Also purchased an Expresscard-USB3.0 flush card for $12.50, and am waiting for it in the mail. My forecast: it'll be worth it.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
No- but that's one of the coolest things I've seen all day especially since it looks stock to a ThinkPad (with the exception of those 2 metal pieces on the front.)
I guess that gets rid of the 'need' to get an i7 on an X220 for USB 3.0 rather effectively (makes me wonder why Lenovo didn't make these and ship them with X220's without the need for the extra controller, without the silly power cord that is).
I guess that gets rid of the 'need' to get an i7 on an X220 for USB 3.0 rather effectively (makes me wonder why Lenovo didn't make these and ship them with X220's without the need for the extra controller, without the silly power cord that is).
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
I have been looking at the same thing myself; there are some on Amazon as well that get positive reviews, such as this one:iamdmc wrote:Has anyone tried the USB 3.0 Expresscards that line up flush with the unit?
http://www.amazon.com/Expresscard-Expre ... Descending
FWIW
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
From Amazon:
What I got from this was that if and only if the ExpressCard slot in x2XX is ExpressCard 2.0 compliant can you talk about getting 'real' USB 3.0 ports via the ExpressCard module. Otherwise you will only get a higher speed compared to USB 2.0 and none of the other benefits of USB 3.0."ExpressCard modules use serial (PCI Express and USB 2.0) data interfaces rather than the ISA (16-bit PC Card) or PCI (CardBus) parallel bus interfaces, improving bus speed in data transfer while reducing the number of signals needed in the interface (2.5 Gb/s [PCI Express] or 480 Mb/s [USB 2.0] for the ExpressCard interface vs. 132 MB/s maximum theoretical throughput for the CardBus interface.) This translates to a more than 2.5X increase in speed when using an ExpressCard module utilizing PCI Express over a CardBus card, and a 40X increase over 16-bit PC Cards."
When reading through this and translating it back into English you can see that it may or may not help to buy a usb 3 version but even if you do gain benefit from it. You will not gain it all because the ExpressCard slot can not handle the full capabilities of usb 3.0. If your computer uses a usb 2.0 channel to handle the usb 3.0 card you will not see any benefit.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Correct, and, from what I understand, the X220 is ExpressCard 2.0 compliant; so that would work well for me.smh wrote:
What I got from this was that if and only if the ExpressCard slot in x2XX is ExpressCard 2.0 compliant can you talk about getting 'real' USB 3.0 ports via the ExpressCard module. .....
FWIW
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
An ExpressCard 2.0 card with USB 3.0 ports would just be a simple pass-through or a hub at best because the standard provides USB 3.0 signals. This also means that either only the i7 X220 has ExpressCard 2.0 or none of them (more likely).Widows Son wrote:Correct, and, from what I understand, the X220 is ExpressCard 2.0 compliant; so that would work well for me.
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I am not so sure about that; it would not be beyond a manufacturer to offer a option on one model device simply as a means of enticing potential buyers to pay a premium for that option.yak wrote: This also means that either only the i7 X220 has ExpressCard 2.0 or none of them (more likely).
USB 3.0 still being fairly new, in the sense that it is not as common in the market as USB 2.0; they may feel they can do that. When 3.0 is as widespread in the market as 2.0 is then it would be dumb for them to do so; it was the same way when 2.0 first superseded USB 1.0.
On the other hand the Expresscard 2.0 format, which was introduced in 2009, is a common & viable one so it would behoove Lenovo to offer it in their systems if they want to maintain the image of offering, if not leading edge, relevant devices. IMHO
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
@Widows Son
Make sure you get the Expresscard 54mm card, otherwise you'll be looking at a bit of wiggle.
Make sure you get the Expresscard 54mm card, otherwise you'll be looking at a bit of wiggle.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Right, thanks for the reminder though.iamdmc wrote:@Widows Son
Make sure you get the Expresscard 54mm card, otherwise you'll be looking at a bit of wiggle.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
I have ordered the express card from ebay today, thanks for the suggestion. I will report my experience when it arrives.
Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
It does look kind of cool. The Express card slot on my X200 has been empty since I got it, just cannot think of what to do with it. At the prices eBay sellers are selling these cards for, it doesn't hurt to try! In the worst case I get two extra USB ports on my Thinkpad
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
UPDATE: I purchased an eSATA - Expresscard54 adapter and have had successful transfers between my two HDD docks, and from dock to X220 at 90MB/s average.
I can't wait to see how USB3.0 performs. I purchased one for myself, and one for my laptop's twin (my father's laptop). $12.50/each shipped. Not bad.
I can't wait to see how USB3.0 performs. I purchased one for myself, and one for my laptop's twin (my father's laptop). $12.50/each shipped. Not bad.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Call me greedy, but I wish they had one that came with 1 eSATA and 1 USB 3.0iamdmc wrote:UPDATE: I purchased an eSATA - Expresscard54 adapter and have had successful transfers between my two HDD docks, and from dock to X220 at 90MB/s average.
I can't wait to see how USB3.0 performs. I purchased one for myself, and one for my laptop's twin (my father's laptop). $12.50/each shipped. Not bad.
Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
eSATAp would be even better... flush mount, of course.khtse wrote:Call me greedy, but I wish they had one that came with 1 eSATA and 1 USB 3.0
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
I bought one from ebay, it is taking too much to arrive, shipments from Hongkong take almost 3 weks they said. My X220 arrived in 7 days including assembly!
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Pay 3 times more and get it in a retail store
Actually, you still can't. The flush-mount Expresscards seem to be available only on eBay from Chinese sellers. Average time is 1-2 weeks. Not bad for traveling 15,000km (or about 9300 miles) for free shipping in a bubble mailer.
And up here in Canada it took more than 1 month to receive my 2 X220's (both CTO units). I forgive them, because it's such a great laptop.
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Actually, you still can't. The flush-mount Expresscards seem to be available only on eBay from Chinese sellers. Average time is 1-2 weeks. Not bad for traveling 15,000km (or about 9300 miles) for free shipping in a bubble mailer.
And up here in Canada it took more than 1 month to receive my 2 X220's (both CTO units). I forgive them, because it's such a great laptop.
my 2 cents
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They are available from AMAZON as well.....iamdmc wrote: Actually, you still can't. The flush-mount Expresscards seem to be available only on eBay from Chinese sellers.
http://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-USB3- ... roduct_top
http://www.amazon.com/Expresscard-Expre ... roduct_top
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
khtse wrote:Call me greedy, but I wish they had one that came with 1 eSATA and 1 USB 3.0
I agree - eSATA(p) + USB 3.0erik wrote:eSATAp would be even better... flush mount, of course.
BTW - Would this give a transfer boost on my T61 & X61T?
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
FYI - those amazon cards are expresscard 32 not 54.
I like the 2x USB 3.0 and 2x eSATA better. It allows me to transfer between 2 eSATA docks or 2 USB 3.0 docks.
This way I don't plug one hard drive dock into a USB 3.0 and the other into a USB 2.0. It just wouldn't make sense!
I like the 2x USB 3.0 and 2x eSATA better. It allows me to transfer between 2 eSATA docks or 2 USB 3.0 docks.
This way I don't plug one hard drive dock into a USB 3.0 and the other into a USB 2.0. It just wouldn't make sense!
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
here is an expresscard 54 oneiamdmc wrote:FYI - those amazon cards are expresscard 32 not 54.
I like the 2x USB 3.0 and 2x eSATA better. It allows me to transfer between 2 eSATA docks or 2 USB 3.0 docks.
This way I don't plug one hard drive dock into a USB 3.0 and the other into a USB 2.0. It just wouldn't make sense!
http://www.amazon.com/Express-card-54mm ... 451&sr=1-3
They are so cheap! I'm going to get a eSATA one, a USB 3 one, and also get a CF card adapter (for my DSLR). Why did I leave the expresscard slot on my X200 blank for so long?
Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
The Amazon express card in the last post's link is sold by Gigacity, that's the same company from Hong Kong I bought mine! strange thing uuuh ?
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Has anyone been able to get this to work?
The driver CD that came with it just has folders with a lot of different drivers and I don't know which one to use
The driver CD that came with it just has folders with a lot of different drivers and I don't know which one to use
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Uh oh ... that doesn't sound good. I bought one of these on eBay and it arrived in the mail about 3 business days later - from GigaCity's Silicon Valley address. But my X220 hasn't even shipped yet (10 days after the order date) and I have nothing else to test the card with.iamdmc wrote:Has anyone been able to get this to work?
Have you contacted GigaCity for support?
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
nope
Got the same driver CD as everyone else though. I've read that others have gotten this to work just fine
Got the same driver CD as everyone else though. I've read that others have gotten this to work just fine
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
I ran the setup programs in the first two folders (labeled USB 3.0) on the CD. Not sure if both were necessary, but the card works fine, although I don't have a USB 3.0 device to test that aspect.
Now the question is how to remove the card - if ever needed - since it fits flush with the edge and there's no release button.
Now the question is how to remove the card - if ever needed - since it fits flush with the edge and there's no release button.
Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
the release mechanism is internal. push the card into the chassis until it clicks, then let it go.azX32 wrote:Now the question is how to remove the card - if ever needed - since it fits flush with the edge and there's no release button.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
Has anyone gotten the eSATA AKE flush card working, and if so, which drivers did you use? I have tried it but can't get it to work. TIA. -Mike
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
the esata card worked plug-and-play for me with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
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Thanks. Actually on my X220 it takes a couple of pushes/clicks until the card comes back out far enough to grab it. Maybe the mechanism is stiffer than normal, or the card is a bit thicker than normal.erik wrote:the release mechanism is internal. push the card into the chassis until it clicks, then let it go.
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Re: X220 (and X201, X200) USB 3.0 Expresscard
ditto.
I usually have to use the esata cable or usb cable to help me grab it out of the slot
I usually have to use the esata cable or usb cable to help me grab it out of the slot
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