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Lenovo X60 Tablet- Crystal HD Help?

#1 Post by flacer » Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:47 pm

Hey everyone, first of all Merry Christmas! :P I've been reading for the past month for any help I needed for the Lenovo x60 I just got, and you guys are extremely helpful, and I appreciate your support! I just got the Broadcom Crystal HD card (the newest model) for Christmas, and placed in what i believe is my WWAN slot (I took out a Sierra wireless card when I put the Crystal HD card). I downloaded the drivers, but unfortunately, the setup says that it can't find the card. I really wanted to use the card to help with game emulator performance, is there anything I need to do to make the setup see the card? Oh and my model number is 6363AE9. Thanks guys! :)

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Re: Lenovo X60 Tablet- Crystal HD Help?

#2 Post by loyukfai » Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:58 am

Not sure but maybe you need a whitelisted BIOS, as there is a list of devices that the BIOS will allow to run in the Mini PCI slot...

Sorry don't have a link on hand, but think you should be able to google it.

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#3 Post by flacer » Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:26 pm

Thank you loyukfai! I have researched modded bioses for a while and found out that Zender's bios is unavailable, and it seems that it is the only bios that can be whitelisted. So I can't use it until I hopefully find some link to Zender's bios.

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#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:35 pm

Try one of these (matching your TYPE): http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thread ... #post90337
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#5 Post by flacer » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:59 am

Thank you for the Link! Unfortunately, the whitelist is not removed on the bios they had for my x60 tablet

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#6 Post by Raceboy » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:51 am

Are you sure? Because I flashed the same BIOS and there is no whitelist anymore.
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#7 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:11 am

I doubt that this is a BIOS problem, the whitelists have definitely been removed.
However, your card is rather exotic, and may not have the proper drivers installed.
Check this out: http://www.broadcom.com/support/crystal_hd/
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#8 Post by flacer » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:15 pm

Thanks guys for letting me know that the whitelist is removed, saved me a lot of aggravation of stupidly searching for another one :oops: I did download those drivers and once setup starts the, it says it was not able to detect the card. I think its because under device manager it has the card currently listed as "Ricoh R/RL/5C476(II) or Compatible Cardbus Controller". Don't know how to go about this but I will keep you posted!

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#9 Post by flacer » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:08 pm

Switched the slot it was in, and its detected and working! :D The wifi card does not work now, but I am purchasing a mini usb adapter for wireless. Thanks so much guys! :bow: Now I'm off to figure out how hard it would be to get game emulators to support it.

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#10 Post by makaveli559m » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:48 pm

Game emulators work great :) I used a program called GameGain to optimize my X60T tablet, it runs really smooth :) I found mini wirless N cards on sale for eBay for really cheap I am thinking of getting one of those and taking out the wireless card off mine.
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#11 Post by crashnburn » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:00 pm

Has anyone tried this card in the X61/X61T ? Does it help?
Also, I guess you have to get rid of the WiFi card to put it in? right?
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#12 Post by flacer » Wed May 16, 2012 11:37 am

Yes, the broadcom card needs to be placed in the first slot to work. unfortunately, my x60 gets a terrible connection with many usb wifi adapters, so i may have to remove my broadcom to put back my wifi card. I there anyway possible that i can use my wifi card in the second slot?

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#13 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed May 16, 2012 12:39 pm

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#14 Post by smugiri » Wed May 16, 2012 8:24 pm

Try a PCMCIA card rather than a miniUSB card - specifically a 3Com XJack a/g PCMCIA card.

I had an X61 and X60 tablet and found that this worked really well. The card slides into the laptop when not in use and the in/out slide action also turns it off.

They are really cheap on eBay right now.
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#15 Post by smugiri » Wed May 16, 2012 8:25 pm


Just saw your link where you posted him to the same thread I was thinking of...
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#16 Post by truk » Thu May 17, 2012 6:09 am

crashnburn wrote:Has anyone tried this card in the X61/X61T ? Does it help?
Also, I guess you have to get rid of the WiFi card to put it in? right?
As per a thread already mentioned, the x60 doesn't actually have two true mini pcie ports (the second slot is only usb), so it loses the wireless card. The x61/t SHOULD work with both cards, where its second port really is a mini pcie port. I'm now thinking about adding one of these cards, just to see if they're all they're hyped up to be.
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#17 Post by crashnburn » Thu May 17, 2012 11:49 am

crashnburn wrote:Has anyone tried this card in the X61/X61T ? Does it help?
Also, I guess you have to get rid of the WiFi card to put it in? right?
truk wrote:As per a thread already mentioned, the x60 doesn't actually have two true mini pcie ports (the second slot is only usb), so it loses the wireless card. The x61/t SHOULD work with both cards, where its second port really is a mini pcie port. I'm now thinking about adding one of these cards, just to see if they're all they're hyped up to be.
Both are interesting threads.

I am wondering if these x61 PCIe's can be "soldered" or "hardware connected" to the following:
- Some kind of SSDs? PCI-e SSD Maybe? (Which as mentioned by someone are hard to find.. and probably expensive)
- Exposing USB 3.0 & eSATA connections to outside storage?
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#18 Post by flacer » Fri May 18, 2012 12:17 am

Thanks again guys, ill try a pcmia card. The cards you listed above are much more expensive in the US, so I was gonna look for a wireless n pcmia card, but i stumbled upon some forums that stated that some thinkpads did not like newer pcmia cards (32-bit) can anyone varify this?

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#19 Post by twistero » Fri May 18, 2012 1:29 am

crashnburn wrote: I am wondering if these x61 PCIe's can be "soldered" or "hardware connected" to the following:
- Some kind of SSDs? PCI-e SSD Maybe? (Which as mentioned by someone are hard to find.. and probably expensive)
- Exposing USB 3.0 & eSATA connections to outside storage?
I believe the only true mini PCIe SSD (i.e. not mSATA, or other arrangements of SATA/PATA signal) is the Super Talent CoreStore MV, and people have reported less-than-steller compatibility with laptops.
However, there are SATA controllers and USB3 cards in mini PCIe form factor. It might be possible to use them for internal/external connections provided you can make room/find place for external connectors.
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#20 Post by crashnburn » Fri May 18, 2012 7:36 pm

crashnburn wrote: I am wondering if these x61 PCIe's can be "soldered" or "hardware connected" to the following:
- Some kind of SSDs? PCI-e SSD Maybe? (Which as mentioned by someone are hard to find.. and probably expensive)
- Exposing USB 3.0 & eSATA connections to outside storage?
twistero wrote:I believe the only true mini PCIe SSD (i.e. not mSATA, or other arrangements of SATA/PATA signal) is the Super Talent CoreStore MV, and people have reported less-than-steller compatibility with laptops.
However, there are SATA controllers and USB3 cards in mini PCIe form factor. It might be possible to use them for internal/external connections provided you can make room/find place for external connectors.
What kind of soldering/balling i.e. basically CONNECTING & JOINING .. equipment, bonding agent (solder) and skill would this kind of job need?
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#21 Post by twistero » Fri May 18, 2012 10:08 pm

crashnburn wrote: What kind of soldering/balling i.e. basically CONNECTING & JOINING .. equipment, bonding agent (solder) and skill would this kind of job need?
The way I see it, it's less about specific skills and more about the hacking spirit, so to say. :mrgreen:
These cards are not designed to be used in a laptop, and certainly not for an external connection. You're using them in a way not intended. As far as I can see you'll have to follow roughly these steps:

1. Make sure the card fits under the palm rest. This may involve removing / moving / replacing parts that are too tall;
2. Route cables inside the chassis so it does not obstruct anything;
3. Make a new opening on the chassis, or reuse an old opening, to bring the connection outside.
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