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Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I have found a very perfect solution for the ones that do not like the touchpads on newer Thinkpads. On my Thinkpad T400s i just peeled of the old surface, which is just a sticker, cleaned of the glue by rubbbing it off with my finger, and then put on a new smooth touchpadsurface from the company skinstyler: http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/black-for- ... p-281.html
Measure your touchpad, and they will send you stickers in exact your size. You might want to cut a very little off the corners to round them, and take care to apply the sticker from one end with for example a creditcard, so that no bubbles of air gets caught under the sticker.
This solution has cost me 10 dollars, and now my touchpad feels exactly like the surface on my old T60. It looks as nice as the old solution, if you take care in applying the sticker, no difference here. The sensitivity is exellent, even better than the original textured surface I think, because scrolling and zoom are now much more smooth and easy to execute. The new surface is also much easier on the fingers.
Here is an image of the result:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83 ... de0143.jpg
Measure your touchpad, and they will send you stickers in exact your size. You might want to cut a very little off the corners to round them, and take care to apply the sticker from one end with for example a creditcard, so that no bubbles of air gets caught under the sticker.
This solution has cost me 10 dollars, and now my touchpad feels exactly like the surface on my old T60. It looks as nice as the old solution, if you take care in applying the sticker, no difference here. The sensitivity is exellent, even better than the original textured surface I think, because scrolling and zoom are now much more smooth and easy to execute. The new surface is also much easier on the fingers.
Here is an image of the result:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83 ... de0143.jpg
Last edited by vipstjert on Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:55 am, edited 6 times in total.
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Nice! Good to know that it can be modded as simply as replacing stickers. I personally don't use the touchpad myself, but among those who do there are plenty who don't like the gritty surface.
An interesting question for the sake of those who actually prefer the textured touchpad - is there a sticker that can be placed on top of the old smooth ones to make it textured?
An interesting question for the sake of those who actually prefer the textured touchpad - is there a sticker that can be placed on top of the old smooth ones to make it textured?
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I have not heard of any textured or gritty stickers to place on top of smooth ones, but have not been loking for them either.
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Wonder if 3500 grit adhesive backed sandpaper would work... 3500 grit would feel like dried toothpaste.
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Have just replaced the gritty touchpad on a T410 now also for a friend as described in this thread. The solution also works flawless on a T410, I can report. I guess it works on all newer thinkpads with this horrible unresponsive knobby touchpad. Strongly recommened tweak
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
What's the size that you guys have ordered?
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I'd also like to know what size I need to order for a T410 - my textured touchpad is wearing away and it really annoys me....
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
you just measure your pad and order the size, Its as easy as that.
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Just placed an order for one of these for my T410, can't wait for it to get here. I didn't realize how much I hated the textured surface until I used my T60 for work again.
So annoying!
Thanks for the heads up!
So annoying!
Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Well, they finally arrived. Sent 4 of them even though I ordered 2.
However, unfortunately the adhesive isn't strong enough to keep the sticker on. Probably due to the reduced surface area and those little pimples on the touchpad.
So, the pads just curl up on all the edges - this is after trying 2 pads.
if anybody has suggestions for a little extra adhesive to keep the sticker on, i'd appreciate it.
otherwise, I wouldn't waste my money. i did notify the SkinStyler folks and they did promptly refund my money.
However, unfortunately the adhesive isn't strong enough to keep the sticker on. Probably due to the reduced surface area and those little pimples on the touchpad.
So, the pads just curl up on all the edges - this is after trying 2 pads.
if anybody has suggestions for a little extra adhesive to keep the sticker on, i'd appreciate it.
otherwise, I wouldn't waste my money. i did notify the SkinStyler folks and they did promptly refund my money.
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
@vipstjert - question, you said you "peeled" off the sticker? You mean the little dimples were just a simple layer ontop of something else? And you were able to get rid of those dimples and then have a smooth flat surface (after cleaning glue off) to place the sticker?
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
The dimple texture is just a sticker over top of the touchpad. I haven't removed mine yet, waiting for the new stickers to arrive before I rip into it.cicorias wrote:@vipstjert - question, you said you "peeled" off the sticker? You mean the little dimples were just a simple layer ontop of something else? And you were able to get rid of those dimples and then have a smooth flat surface (after cleaning glue off) to place the sticker?
Let us know how it goes mate!
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
My colleague wore off the grit in six months of "normal" use..
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I see it happen on a lot of T410 in our corporate fleet. Really looks tacky.
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Hello, as i tell in my description, you have to completely remove the old sticker with the 'pimples' and the old adhesive before applying the new one, then it works perfectly. Mine is sitting here on the 6th month without coming off at all. Good luck.cicorias wrote:Well, they finally arrived. Sent 4 of them even though I ordered 2.
However, unfortunately the adhesive isn't strong enough to keep the sticker on. Probably due to the reduced surface area and those little pimples on the touchpad.
So, the pads just curl up on all the edges - this is after trying 2 pads.
if anybody has suggestions for a little extra adhesive to keep the sticker on, i'd appreciate it.
otherwise, I wouldn't waste my money. i did notify the SkinStyler folks and they did promptly refund my money.
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
has anyone ever tried the touchpad after removing the rough sticker but before replacing it? does it work? IOW, what if i just pull the sticker...does what's underneath work just as well?
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Yes. It works.forgetcolor wrote:has anyone ever tried the touchpad after removing the rough sticker but before replacing it? does it work? IOW, what if i just pull the sticker...does what's underneath work just as well?
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Yes, it works, but it works very bad, as the plain plastic surface does not let your finger glide smoothly as a new surface will.forgetcolor wrote:has anyone ever tried the touchpad after removing the rough sticker but before replacing it? does it work? IOW, what if i just pull the sticker...does what's underneath work just as well?
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Actually, it slides around great on my T420.vipstjert wrote: Yes, it works, but it works very bad, as the plain plastic surface does not let your finger glide smoothly as a new surface will.
It is *very* smooth though, so you'll want your fingers to be both clean and dry.
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Mine finally came in and I replaced mine with the new pieces. But for the love of god, make sure you order a spare if not good at cutting. I buggered mine up really badly
Used a paper cutter and everything and it still came out crooked on the bottom
Does work a heck of a lot better though!
Used a paper cutter and everything and it still came out crooked on the bottom
Does work a heck of a lot better though!
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
The link on the SkinStyler page has changed. I am only able to find products for apple computers on their website now. Does anyone know if this company still offers cut-to-fit touchpad covers any more? I have a couple that I need to replace.
UPDATE: The company has moved all non-apple products to the tecty.com domain. So the new URL to order these TouchPad skins is the following:
http://www.tecty.com/black-for-pc-touch ... p-281.html
UPDATE: The company has moved all non-apple products to the tecty.com domain. So the new URL to order these TouchPad skins is the following:
http://www.tecty.com/black-for-pc-touch ... p-281.html
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Yes @jayton4 is correct, we have separated Apple computer and PC notebook to 2 different domain for better buyer experience.
You can now get all the PC laptop touchpad skin on http://www.tecty.com
If you own a MacBook, you can get trackpad and wrist rest skin from our Apple site at http://www.skinstyler.com
We also thank you @vipstjert for introducing us to forum users. Sincerely appreciated for your recommendation.
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You can now get all the PC laptop touchpad skin on http://www.tecty.com
If you own a MacBook, you can get trackpad and wrist rest skin from our Apple site at http://www.skinstyler.com
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I just got mine installed on my T410s. It looks great!
I decided to peel the awful pimple touchpad off to measure before I ordered. I used the touchpad with no sticker on there at all for a couple weeks while I waited for the new one to come in. It is better with nothing than the OEM sticker, but I did not like it since my finger didn't glide smoothly. I measured 76mm wide by 45mm tall. The height was closer to 45.25mm, but just 45mm looks good. The T410 is the same size as the T410s.
I have pictures of Dark Metal 10 installed on my T410s. The first picture is with the flash and the second is without. My camera is not that great.
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... G_0425.jpg
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... G_0426.jpg
I am thinking that I may order a different style/color for my T410, and I may try 46mm tall instead of 45 to see how that looks.
I decided to peel the awful pimple touchpad off to measure before I ordered. I used the touchpad with no sticker on there at all for a couple weeks while I waited for the new one to come in. It is better with nothing than the OEM sticker, but I did not like it since my finger didn't glide smoothly. I measured 76mm wide by 45mm tall. The height was closer to 45.25mm, but just 45mm looks good. The T410 is the same size as the T410s.
I have pictures of Dark Metal 10 installed on my T410s. The first picture is with the flash and the second is without. My camera is not that great.
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... G_0425.jpg
http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af2 ... G_0426.jpg
I am thinking that I may order a different style/color for my T410, and I may try 46mm tall instead of 45 to see how that looks.
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Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 256GB w/ mSATA>microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520 180GB, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a stack of classics in storage
Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 256GB w/ mSATA>microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520 180GB, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a stack of classics in storage
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Looks great, I go with the more conservative black ones, bot the feel of these stickers are lightyears ahead of the gritty oem surface. I have a whole bunch lying around to replace the surface on every Thinkpad i see . Congratulations!
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Thanks a LOT vipstjert
I just replaced the touchpad/trackpad surface on my T430 with a smooth one from tecty.com and the multitouch scroll is much more acceptable now! If anyone has a question on how to remove the existing sticker on touchpad/trackpad, you can use some duck tape
I just replaced the touchpad/trackpad surface on my T430 with a smooth one from tecty.com and the multitouch scroll is much more acceptable now! If anyone has a question on how to remove the existing sticker on touchpad/trackpad, you can use some duck tape
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
My Thinkpad E530 which I just received has the same problem, at first I thought the touchpad was defective as the mouse was jumping around as if it was drunk, if I move my palm and it touched the Touchpad edges things start popping on the sides (one of Win8 charms and popping menus) plus the pimples were not helping at all, it was too rough to make any finer mouse movements. Then I discovered that the UltraNav drivers were no good and switched to using Synaptics drivers. The jumping got reduced after that but I had so many usability problems with the stupid multi-touch features( three finger scroll, four finger scroll, edge touch etc..) which was misreading most of the gestures and making my life horrible. I ended up disabling the multi-touch features but still the issue with the pimple touchpad remains, it is like travelling on a "bumpy" road. I feel so horrible with my priced Thinkpad purchase, I can't imagine who could have designed this Touchpad. Why can't they design a touchpad like the Lenovo Ideapad or Dell or Toshiba which all have a smoother touchpad that reduces friction and allows precision mouse movements, are they really so dumb?
It is really good to know from this posting that this pimple pad is actually a sticker that could be removed and this could be replaced with a smoother Trackpad skin, I have ordered one (from http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/) and I hope I could get the pimple skin off although I do not know how well it may come off (will surely try what @vicosphi suggested). Can some one post a video on removing the "pimple" pad skin please?
It is really good to know from this posting that this pimple pad is actually a sticker that could be removed and this could be replaced with a smoother Trackpad skin, I have ordered one (from http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/) and I hope I could get the pimple skin off although I do not know how well it may come off (will surely try what @vicosphi suggested). Can some one post a video on removing the "pimple" pad skin please?
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I don't think that the pimply touchpad surface can be removed on the E430 or E530.
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Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 256GB w/ mSATA>microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520 180GB, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a stack of classics in storage
Current models/upgrades:
T410 2518X01- 8GB, Corsair Force GT 120GB
T410s 2901A3U- 8GB, Intel 6300 WiFi, Crucial m4 256GB w/ mSATA>microSATA adapter
T420s 4174PPU- 16GB, Intel 520 180GB, Crucial M550 512GB mSATA, Intel 6300 WiFi
and a stack of classics in storage
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
I was able to stick the skin above my E530 Touchpad. Looks fine for now although I could not remove the pimples on the touchpad
Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Hello,
For an E530, it seems that the touchpad surface has no sticker on it. It has a grid of small spots on it.
Anyway, I feel the same as you, the cursor "jumps". I work on Linux, graphical environment, i.e. xorg.
I guess that in part the question is related to setup parameters. In my case, default configuration has parameters (config of Synaptics Touchpad):
"FingerLow" "25"
"FingerHigh" "30"
changed to
"FingerLow" "42"
"FingerHigh" "45"
improves. At least now I can work with it, BUT there is still something, as "repeated taps" move the cursor a little bit, and in some other laptops that I have worked with it does not happen.
Regards,
Josep
For an E530, it seems that the touchpad surface has no sticker on it. It has a grid of small spots on it.
Anyway, I feel the same as you, the cursor "jumps". I work on Linux, graphical environment, i.e. xorg.
I guess that in part the question is related to setup parameters. In my case, default configuration has parameters (config of Synaptics Touchpad):
"FingerLow" "25"
"FingerHigh" "30"
changed to
"FingerLow" "42"
"FingerHigh" "45"
improves. At least now I can work with it, BUT there is still something, as "repeated taps" move the cursor a little bit, and in some other laptops that I have worked with it does not happen.
Regards,
Josep
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Re: Solution: replacing the gritty touchpad on newer Thinkpads
Just in case, the previously mentioned website www.tecty.com does not show anything at all!
But go instead to http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/ and there it shows the name Tecty!
Guess they merged?
But go instead to http://www.skinstyler.com/pc/ and there it shows the name Tecty!
Guess they merged?
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